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Post by Everly Bardugo Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:49 am

So, we've decided that the werewolves heal more quickly than normal (at least until more evidence is given in the other direction). If there's anything else that needs to be discussed regarding them (or other creatures), I'd like to suggest we do it here so it's in one neat little place and can be talked about without running through someone's thread (lol, Sorry Bella).
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Post by Marley Harris Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:05 am

Yeah, sorry.

I'm honestly just speaking from the way I've been RPing them the whole time.

The way I've written is this -

Werewolves always have a slightly more sensitive sense of smell, hearing, and even taste. They have very hardy bodies, as they have to undergo so much transformations. Weaker willed werewolves, or aggressive werewolves like Fenrir Greyback, might also suffer from aggression.

Prior to a full moon, a werewolf might feel twinges as the wolf inside "stirs." This can range anywhere from aches, from shooting sensations, sudden increases in senses or, for weaker human bodies, full blown pain.

The transformation itself is bloody painful. Like - rip out of you skin painful. But once it's done, the wolf is out. A wolf on wolfsbane may find that their human self almost has a small amount of consciousness within the wolf body - VERY LITTLE THOUGH. Under wolfsbane, just your average wolf. Without it, savage hungry beast.

The transformation back is usually not one the human is aware of. The way I've written it, usually the wolf transforms into the unconscious, naked human. When they wake up, the least they feel is achey everywhere. Obviously, any wounds they suffered as the wolf remains. I think that their super human healing probably doesn't come back until they've recovered from the full moon. Some recover within the day, some need more time.

I've written that every werewolf has a slightly different experience, in that the wolf and the human bodies are always different. Also, each full moon can be a bit different, depending on the "strength" of the moon, or if the wolf is feeling particularly eager or aggressive.

The only reason I'm putting so much effort into this is that if all of this is suddenly debunked, then I have tons of characters with threads that are completely invalidated.
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Post by Khaat Lupin Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:16 am

Point taken, Jack, and that's always painful. I'm guessing what we will eventually come to is something that will mean some shifts in our thinking for a lot of us.  For example, what you're describing, if it were adapted in full, makes massive changes in some of my own characters because I've done it completely differently.  And therein lies the problem--when we arent on the same page.

But I'd encourage you to consider those things as evolutions of not just those characters but of PA as a whole.  I'm sure that my own characters will have to go through some growth as well, so I do understand what you're saying. Hopefully its not a complete "re-do" for anyone.  I'd really like to avoid that.

I don't know that it necessarily invalidates those threads or those characters.  As the site has grown and changed, though, we've had to be willing sometimes to "turn the page" and do things a bit differently for the betterment of everyone.  

As I said, though, I'm hoping that we can avoid anyone having to feel like their entire character and the effort thats been put into that character is being just abjectly scrapped.
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Post by Marley Harris Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:23 am

Right... so where do we start the compromise? I don't know any other versions.
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Post by Khaat Lupin Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:31 am

i honestly will need more than doing this off the top of my head.  its time for me to head to bed b/c i need to be up at 5 in the morning.  so, let me make sure i'm giving it my best though--which just really isn't going to happen at bedtime. lol.

i really wouldn't want substantive changes of any sort to be rushed anyway.  i'd rather they be thought out and done as well as we know how to do them.  

i do have some scattered ideas, but i don't want to just toss them out without more research and not without them being more thought out. i'll try to have those thoughts put up in a day or so.
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Post by Everly Bardugo Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:54 pm

Regardless of individual werewolves reacting differently, like Jack suggested - which is obviously entirely valid, we do need a general, set lore for writers who are new to this. So, actually, we do need this to be sorted out. We have several members who don't understand how to write creatures because we have not explained them well enough. So once we come to come conclusions, either me or Khaat or perhaps Eli can write up the list and post it for them.

However, it's been decided that the site is going to follow the common lore regarding the fact that werewolves heal more quickly, unless you can provide us proof from Rowling's interviews or direct text evidence of it, since the site is going to maintain Canon as well as possible. A metaphor should not define all aspects of something so universally accepted.
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Post by Theodore Rookwood Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:30 pm

I've always written Ariel at the extreme end and as though the werewolf and the man are competing for the same body and in Ariel trying to keep out the wolf, he gets ill in a big way. It doesn't help that he's particularly melodramatic about the whole thing away. I've never really seen him as healing particularly well because of the relationship he has with the 'other half.'

As it is, maybe we could make it so that every werewolf has to have x, y and z traits ... like really innocuous ones that obviously they would have and then possibly have a selection taken from the wiki and what JKR has said about it that we feel personally is more ambiguous or is more interpretation but, yeah, if we can agree on what 'makes a werewolf' in the most generic sense then we can set that down and then it'll be about being open to interpretation.

How much strength do you guys write them as having in wolf form? Just as a general sort of curiosity point.
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Post by Everly Bardugo Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:49 pm

Okay, let's take a step back. This is in no way directed at you or any illness you are facing. This is about the site being cohesive and having a set lore that less experienced writers can use to learn how to play those creatures. It isn't about you being wrong so much as the Admins having made a decision because it betters the way the characters can be written. No one is after you in any way, and to make it quite plain, some of us - myself specifically - were not aware that this related to something you experience. So this is in no way an attack on what you feel or deal with in your life. However, it doesn't really help to bring that in when we don't all understand it, as you've said. We can't understand, so it is difficult to expect us to. Werewolves, as a race, would deal with their own version of pain, because that is what their curse entails. No two diseases will feel the same, and while metaphors are helpful for figuring the rhetoric with which to write those scenes, it is hard to give them a 1:1 ratio and call it done, too.

I don't disagree that pop culture can be wrong, but we are going with what most of the world believes because it will make it easier for new players, and will keep the site a place where people know the rules and aren't constantly sending me PMs about whether or not they're doing it wrong. It shouldn't be about wrong and right, but rather about getting to write and getting to have fun with it. If the quick healing is what more people understand, it's what we'll go with.

I'm not disagreeing, either, with the idea that the werewolves would have to deal with the fact that they're liable to turn any time the moon bloody well says so (because, frankly, I'd be pissed if I had to deal with it), so if it makes sense for them to hurt lots before or after or all the time, then by all means. It doesn't seem to matter, though, if they all experience it differently. Stronger werewolves perhaps don't feel it as much, or heal more quickly than, say, newer ones or ones who are coming off of the changing. It makes sense to me that ones who have just dealt with the full moon would be much slower, response-time wise to injuries.

However, it's been decided that the more rapidly-healing werewolves fit within this site's intended world, and it coincides with what more people believe, so to make things more accessible for other writers, we need to go with that. I realize it may not be right in every realm, and that people will choose to write it differently depending on their characters' strengths (as mentioned above), but we need a baseline, and this is our best one.
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