Robert made a good point, and he had now made it clear that Roland would be forgiven for his part in Grindelwalds coup if he changed his side soon and stopped supporting him. But Roland couldn't think properly now, perhaps later at home he would consider it... but he would probably make the same decision. Whatever Robert said, it was hard for Roland to convince himself that changing sides would be better. Siding with Robert would mean possible death as a traitor, if not, it would certainly mean a loss of all his positions and seeing his nemesis become minister again. Siding with Grindelwald would give more blows to his pride as he would watch the mad dictator tear apart the Wizarding World. He was trapped.
"I have no family," Roland responded bluntly. He had a wife once, but that was a while ago, and they had no children. All his life he had only focused on his job really. "Nothing lasts, besides legacy. They will remember me one day, but as who, the traitor? Only if you win. But you will not win Lupin, you might think you outnumber him, but thats not true. I have been feeding these people lies for half a year now. They all hate you, both of you, and won't be happy when you try to retake the position," Roland replied grimly. He stood up, having made his decision. "If you care for your family so much, take them to America, and live there peacefully. You cannot do anything here."